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I picked up a scores of this gritty shit yesterday didn't know it was this shit until after I bought it and tested it. I really don't know what to do to solve this stupid gritty bud problem. I really hope someone can come up with some hard facts about what this grit actually is? Ive told the dealer who I got it off about the bud as he gets loads of this gritty stuff, I really hope he can see the dangers and stop buying this shit. Im at the point where theres so much shit bud about I will have to stop bunning it as I really don't wanna kill myself over bud. I feel really angry when I get this sandy bud but I can't really blame my dealer that much as he probably didn't know himself. This bud is really on my mind now and I can't stop thinking about the health issues of smoking it. I don't care so much that im losing out on a bit of bud as the sand shit weighs a bit but I care for my life. Im up in Essex so letting you all know its about round here as well!

Sorry for the cross-post from another thread but this belongs here.

Here's a cropped version of the picture on everyonedoesit



The full picture is here

It's not quite high enough resoulution to really see what it is though

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ARGH-A-TRON, dude....

you could of just tapped the bud and the crap falls off.

i have a strong feeling that this stuff can be made air bourne in the process of burning, has anyone else noticed that the sludge around ur bongs has a funny texture to it, and instead of being the worlds most sticky messy substance... it scrapes off.

i do agree totally with the idea that the cannabis markets are totally fucked up coz the most of the big trade is in the hands of crack dealers, who's only interest is futhering of profits and increasing their availible market by spreading addiction. And the police insist on busting small and medium growers.

something really doesn't smell right there. surley if the supplier is bigger then the chance of the supplied getting busted and hence a bigger chance they will grass up and hence a bigger chance the guys above will get caught and so my main question is, where do babies come from?

no seriously either this has to be run by a very very very deep, dark criminal gang or because the police dont have to care coz its illegal they are taking the attitude of ignorance toward the situation. i mean surely they have tested at least some of the samples of weed they have busted, and surely they will liase between forces and surley they will think hang on a minute theres something bad going on here... but then again with my previous experiance of those who enforce the law in this country i know there is about the same chance of that happening as there is that i will remeber the point that i was initially typing about.

another thing that has come to my attention from reading down is that we dont have any idea at all if this is pure silica sand or if it is itself cut with any additives, addictive or like the rubber in hash just to make u feel a little worse. i would suggest due to the seemingly evil nature of this practise it is already happening or will happen as soon as the cunts realise they can do it, and we wouldn't be any with wiser and most of these substances are water soluable

now im paranoid

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ok, my main point was the sides of my bong have a gritty substance around the outside and i know that although sand doesn't burn i too agree with the idea of a cigarette filter to prevent a premature-premature death from sand rather than smoking ;) for bongs if u insist on smoking the grit make sure u have a couple of sharp angles in the smoke path for the smoke to go round, the air flow this creates causes heavy particals to be flug outwards and assisted by the tars, stick to the sides in a much greater volume than they would otherwise. pipes are a no no. full stop, you will die even sooner than u will croak from the extra soot u inhale.

much love sorry for much rambling...

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/19/2009 02:16PM by farseerriza.

we are being fed shit coz we are too humble and pathetic in the manner with which we persue our choices.

There must be an amazing amount of cannabis users as well as all the (very many) logical cannabis arguments, yet we still continue to persue our choices (cannabis) like shameful criminals clinging to shadows and compromising our values through ridiculous illogical (lawful???) persecution.
We have choices!!

One of the reasons Oliver Cromwell (revolutionary and puritan England 1599-1658) was toppled from power is due to him outlawing (prohibiting) the consumption of alcohol (and Christmas), the English public became angry, voiced and acted upon their voice then renewed favour in the French king, returned him to power and restored alcohol consumption and Xmas (as well as other things).

The point is that back then we argued and succeeded in restoring our prohibited choices (with a government that would likely behead you if you were a nuisance!), yet today we accept a ridiculous reality in which we graciously embrace a system which continues to ignore the voice of the people and follow its own agenda.

Revolution is an inevitable necessary turn!

If we were as one, united and organised we could topple (nasty) institutions and governments overnight, and this holds the same effect for shit ganja dealers and those who hold a different agenda to the majority (we the people hold the power, just take it!).

Alcohol is allowed and promoted and accepted (fair enough, free choice) and cannabis (a plant) is demonised, withheld, punished and shamed, and the MASSIVE insanity in my head is that we allow this to continue.

i think one way of making this a priority debate in government is to flood the courts with small posession cases, do not accept police cautions and let your name be tarnished with the mark of a ridiculous law, become a nuisance (argue your rights), cost them money, realise you are being persecuted.

oh and back to the thread. what would you do if someone took your money and didnt give you what you negotiated for? answers on a postcard!

p.s thanks for the income tax information Derek, it was eye opening :)

Yeh this is proper fucked up

Loads of fake weed going around

All im gonna say is tell your dealear to fuck off

This is the only way were gonna stop this shit if noone buys it then noone sells it

Im from essex and it all over the place sand, fibre glass, bullshit weed

Im just gonna have to wait cause i aint smoking that crap

Aint life boring when you aint got a nice J



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2006 09:15PM by ACWe88.

Hey I managed to get some at last it had been a week or so. A Q of 2004 style lovely nugget no grit buds.

Don't smoke the sandy/silica sand/ concrete /iron beads and filings/ coarse crushed glass / talcum powder / random dissolving waxy powder stuff. Im sure it will shred your lungs up and poison you in many ways. I smoked a friends sandy powdery skunk it made me want to chuck on one toke. How do we know the beads dont crack and send micro shards through the joint into your tiny airways? With something as unknown as prohibited drugs its not safe.

One of the main reasons for me consuming skunk is for its effect on my asthma, especially when vaporised. Apart from the cracking buzz I can go days with out Ventolin as long as I have enough green. These weird unknown compounds found in my local (NE surrey) buds make you feel tired sick and scammed to fuck. Its almost as bad as someone stealing your garden plants, many a home grower will understand.

As people keep saying the only way to stop this shit from happening is to stop buying from dark criminals or the people they sell to. You need to know your source and stick with it, if it means going a week or two with out green then you will enjoy it all the more when you score. And even better than enjoying a smoke you dont have any glass/ all of the above weird shit in your lungs.

It could be like the asbestos crisis all over again, but only cutting out us stoners that crave a joint enough to buy this potentially dangerous substance. Not to mention what it could do to your teeth. you know.... when your teeth crack for a whole day after you roll a joint then accidentally put your finger in your moth or when you suck your bifta and a load of sandy crap comes out of the roach, just think about the enamel on your teeth being slowly chipped so bacteria can get behind and peel the protective casing of your tooth right off leaving a chalky stump to quickly dissolve.

In the words of Kurt "Just because your paranoid, dont mean they're not after you".

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Edited by Derek - Sorry richardsweed but you can't ask for weed suppliers to contact you on this forum ...



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2006 01:19PM by Derek.

Same shite here in berkshire, sandy crap, its everywhere,
I agree with djDave just dont buy it, eventually then the dealers will give up hopefully. Ive also found bud with wat looks like really fine sugar in it, like icing sugar, but not quite so sweet, and its been crap weed so i knw it aint THC crystals. Anyone have any ideas to what this is??

this stuff isnt being shall i say "molested" in britain it arives from holland therefore is being sprayed there with these unatural substances , as for what it is this depends on the supplier i have seen it cut with glass , sand , an white grit, and some kind of sweet tasteing sugar , as for when we will stop recieving this death weed is uknown as the charachter behind of this oviously doesnt give a fuck as long as hes earning thecunts

I recently spoke with my mate who bought a few oz of grass and he said he found really small bits of glass which has been mixed up around the weed. From what i thought is someone has just shredded up glass to make the weed look more "crystally"
Whoever put the glass in the weed at first is one sad little cunt.

well im from the midlands and ive come across many different sorts of contamination. including the weird play-do like odd bit like the post above.
ive seen the wet damp looking weed, but its not wet? and a sandy gritty batch plus a sand one with shiny reflective bits.i did the test today...yes there was small bits that fell to the bottom..in a sludgy kinda way...i took it out, dried it and hey presto glass...very small fragments with gritty sand. you can tell the different even if it is small grains.

i have done extreme reasearch-its unbelievable that its got like this.
i have though taken a few pictures to show ppl what to look out forill ask derek if he can post them for you guys...the problem is if ppl think that brix is ok then there going to carry on doing it.its not ok

This plant is perfect...why do this! the fear i have is that people will start to do this but not with brix....how do we even know if it is.i have read abit about ppl suffering respratory problems and collasped lungs, personally im staying clear.
the scary part is i was suffering from a real bad chest problem when i smoked an 8th..my mouth was sore, gums,throat.and i could breath properly! i thought i had a chest infection.
i smoke for medicinal purpose's, but of course i enjoy the plant itself!
i have suffered for 6 years now with endometriosis a crippling pelvic pain as well as other things and
the worst ever digestive system ever due to my bowl growing to a different organ!detailed i know, but just wanna paint u a picture hehe

im gonna be in the shit because im going to suffer is was bad enough having the drought but i refuse to smoke this NON weed... its my pain relief, and i refuse to take any legal prescribed drugs! because they kill u in the end of course.
there's only so many dealers where im from and there all getting these batches of there big men lol its crazy...plus i dont drive so travelling if of the agender.


we cant believe everything the goverment says..and thats a fact
it saddens me to know that ppl are so greedy! all they can see is pounds signs.

my suspition is they are stamping down - arresting innocent dealers(as they do)
produce this @demon@ weed and give it to organised criminals to sell on our streets..they contaminate it-probably with something poisonous!
we buy it - smoke it...and suffer from serious health problems even fatal.
Then they can say....we were right along, cannabis kills.
then they will question all the scientific evidence! blah blah blah.who knows what there thinking!

they want to scare us toker's, the one thing they dont have is power over us!
we need to serious think about the position they have put us in!!
lets rock n roll.

peace and love thelizardking
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i have though taken a few pictures to show ppl what to look out forill ask derek if he can post them for you guys...the problem is if ppl think that brix is ok then there going to carry on doing it.its not ok

Here they are:


Full size iamge





Full size iamge



Full size iamge

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2006 02:04PM by Derek.

there we go....my piccies i took lastnight! i laughed actually because derek said in my email 'are they for real' unfortunately guys it is real.
i dont even know if its glass but i see v fine fine shiny reflective bits-exactly like glass.
the only reason why i brought this batch is (a my dealers my mate..and he gets it off his man) b) i did look....because i trusted him. c) i cant grow my own becuase our landlord got busted for croppin - a factory full but didnt catch him. so the cops love it here and they behind the house and i see them every morning...the b~~~~~~s

is there anywhere that someone could test this shit?? i want to help



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2007 09:09AM by thelizardqueen.

This thread interested me so much I could't resist posting as I've experienced this. I smoked an ounce over a short period, using a thc collecting crumbler with a wire mesh, and when I had only a small amount left I emptied the 'thc' into a spliff with the last I had. I looked at it closely as it fell into the paper, and realised how shiny it was, as you say, but presumed it was perhaps I had never seen such large amounts of kiff. Needless to say, it nearly destroyed my insides, and I had wasted my weed too, having to stop smoking after a few puffs. I realised instantly it was sand.

They must be stopped.

Just adding my name to the list really. Bought an oz of sand weed today and then discovered this forum. It has definitely affected the east midlands all over, I had no idea it had spread so far out of control. Crazy. It seems smoking my homegrown henbane is a safe alternative to this new "sand weed".

The law is bullshit, that's already been well covered in this topic and elsewhere. And I strongly agree legalisation or at least decriminalization would put a stop to this dangerous con.

I also think that you should be able to buy a normally safe drug like weed, without having to goto a person who also sells base, coke, and narcotics.

Finally I am also interested in a way of separating most of this grit from a batch without losing too much of it in the process. I will refuse to buy this in future, I'd even sooner smoke henbane which is a poor alternative.

its outrageous....i do reckon that there is weed with this brix+ shit in...BUT i do also think there is other contaminations besides that.
from my experience and experiments lol....if your spliff goes out all the time ie, fucking you off! it all crystalises and wont smoke....this i feel is sand.most brix+ will cover all the bud and steam completly wiv fake looking crystals if its prepared properly(as in the time spraying)...it may look tasty to people that dont know much yet about weed but please ppl its complete crap.if you carry on buying then they will carry on doing it...

if you can smoke it...then its fibre glass especially if you can see shiny reflections in ur bud.and it looks all gritty and sandy! i reckon its mixed with a sand base mixture.
in both though you will experience alot of crap sandy looking stuff falling off ur bud...flick ur bud and u'll see

the brix+ crap sounds dodgy...i read up its organic and safe blah blah blah...but at the end of the day the only person that benifits is the dodgy dealers! i heard also that dealers that have used this...hate it??? mmmmm
it craps the equipment up...it gets everywhere - plus most people wont buy it of them.(cuz its shite)
so why use it??
why is there an even bigger crack down on homegrowers? i dont believe the news most of the time..but the local new is always promoting cannabis seize's!
which i feel is causing the shortage of good weed in all places..
who is behind this?? the goverment? maybe im overindulging in this subject but when my health is at risk and many other like urselves-its important and serious!we are not porns in a game!fibre glass could burn a hole in ur lungs.

so take time out and check ur weed...hope this information helps.
oh and the weed pics above i posted....i have a sample if anyone knows where we can get it tested?
if we do this then maybe we can find out what it actually is...i mean im not one on my own..but im shit scared of this..and the possible health risks of collasped lung or something.
weed for me is medicine and for many others...and the rest enjoy....these people are destroying a great thing.

take it easy guys....(oh i managed to track a geeza down and grab his last q of homegrown :-) mmmm thats what is should taste like...)

oh i forgot to mention...if anyone else gets anymore or still has some that they brought? take a pic...keep a sample does anyone know anyone in a lab :-)! then we can get to the bottom of this...

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If you do get a picture and need somewhere tohost it, you can send it to contactukcia@ukcia.org and we'll put it up for people to see.

Derek

Me finks its glass..........

I am a non smoker but totally disagree wiv all this bollox that its bad for you. Eat a burger, u get kreuzfeld-Jacob, eat eggs u risk catching salmonella, eat sushi and ur f*cked( for those that have watched the news) Best bet is to become a legal alcoholic which gets u sympathy(its an illness..??!)and a new liver and a feckin gud excuse to be off ur head and behave like an idiot.

As a non-weed smoker, I wud rather be in a room filled wiv stoned people than in a room full of drunks......

nicely put Pach...