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Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: no_comment (IP Logged)
Date: January 31, 2007 09:16PM

Grit weed or whatever u want to call it has been around for a very long time, i would say the first time i saw it was in 2005 september time. I could tell something was wrong with my weed when i looked at my weight and knew it was under; the strange thing was it wasnt wet or compressed so i thought to myself whast wrong with it. After taking a closer look it sparkled i tasted it and sure enough it gritted my teeth so i went back to my dealer a sound guy (not some gangsta rude boy just a good lad) and he took it back. THis stuff ahsnt gone away but lately i have heard of my contacts that this shit has been found up in manchester, glasgow, london, wales (were enough good shit is grown ffs) and all over the midlands.

One friend tried smoking some and after an 8th he satrted to have neck pains and a sore chest after that we spread the word too as many people we could (by the way this is in the worcester/herefordshire area) and it amazes me to this day you will find people who say i will smoke it its not bad but in my opinion no one should do this too weed.

As a long standing dealer who has never tried too fuck anyone over or 'skank' anyone, i am ashamed at what some people are doing to nice good cannabis , i mean it must be losing them some customers as i used to buy enough and i stopped and i know enough people who stopped.

I say people should stop buying it, i did i took the time to find other sources and made sure i wasnt contributing to this problem because the way i see it is that the consumers are just as bad as the supplers, if they didnt buy the grit weed then there wouldnt be a demand and it would force them too stop, fair enough if u dont know then ignorance is bliss till u releaise but a little self-control wouldnt go astray. So mabye one day those bastards who do this too our smoke will relaise its not worth it.

thx for reading this, im just glad the problem is finally being dealt with as i heard the other day there was a news announcement about it and its on the NHS website.

P.S. i unfortunatly have been told the comercial groweers of the uk may start doign this now as well as its has become more common and no one complains so think about what ur doing when u buy this crap!!!

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: stormeagle (IP Logged)
Date: January 31, 2007 10:23PM

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no_comment
wales (were enough good shit is grown ffs)

any pointers as to where? :(

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: BoBiZmE (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 09:26AM

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SkunkMunkey3000
Ive just picked up in the bucks/middlesex border...the weed i have is not gritty in the slightest and looks absolutly drippin in crystals, yet when smoked doesn't have a great taste and really dont get you stoned, I have a suspicion that those responsible for the grit may have realised people dont want gritty weed anymore, so have now found a different contaminate to add to the weed. its very hard to separate from the weed but DEFINATLY is not grit nor THC crystals!!!
Also, with the grit weed, has anybody tried to separate the grit and then do tests to find out burnin temps etc, does it explode and shatter when heated? At least if we know how this acts when burnt it can help make smoking it a little safer, if rolling tobacco burns at a lower temperature than a cigarette, it must therefore be safer to burn any contaminate in with baccy instead of fag....it may just be me babbling on, but it makes sense, right?

Hi I also have a bag of thc mixed with this glass shit left over from a quart of this shit just put it through my grinder (one with a crystal catcher). It is very annoying coz I know there is a shed load of thc in this bag its just mixed with dam glass!!
I know there must be a way of separating them from each other i mean one is heavier then the other, just dont know how.
Yes you could burn it but that would just leave the glass as this has a higher melting point than thc which would be pointless. I have it in the freezer at the moment, just to see what would happen it does seem to be doing something the thc seems to be collecting together in larger lumps. yet still not convinced, the other annoying thing is that the particles are the about the same size so cant just wack it through a tea strainer or something.
My plan is to hopefully separate these and make some damn nice hashish out of the thc which is a simple process.

Please if anyone has any ideas pls let me know....

Also if your going to smoke this shit use a bong the glass will not melt and will get filtered out through the bong, also remember to clean your bong regularly just to make sure you dont get any in your mouth.

Thats only if you have already purchased without knowing, OTHERWISE DO NOT BUY THIS SHIT!

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: SkunkMunkey3000 (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 12:11PM

in theory THC is disolvable in alcohol (making a tincture), im guessing that these glass beads are not, so this should be a suitable way of separating. Im guessing then that you can separate the THC and alcohol by GENTLY heating until all the liquid has disolved.otherwise if you dont wanna cook the tincture to separate u can make top class drink by mixin 1/2 pint of gin with a Q, leave in cupboard for about 2months (until it goes greenish) and then drink SLOWLY!!!(it really messes u up). You get an amazing drink which gets u both pissed and stoned!

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: wholespud (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 01:47PM

I have been a smoker for the last 6-7 years, I didn't start till I was 18 and started as a relaxant as my job was very stressful!
My family know I smoke and all prefer me to do so rather than drinking.

I am furious with the police and also the government in the way they have handled this situation!

They are supposedly there to protect us and when asked what they intend to do there response is "its illegal" so nothing! I’m sorry but so is prostitution, however all police forces know where the red light districts and brothels are but do nothing, as they know punters will eventually find another way of getting sex! The same can be said about cannabis, just because it’s harder to get hold of it does not mean smokers will turn around and say oh well never mind, they will find another supply. Even this scare will not stop people smoking so surely the government should get their heads out of the clouds and “drugs figures” books and take action!

Stop the organized gangs who get there money from weed factories and use human trafficking in order to staff these factories, as a responsible adult I condone such behaviour. But for heaven sakes why bust someone who has a few plants and helps out his friends with a reliable and safe supply? People like these make very little money from growing and “selling” it. It’s these people who at present are being used to boost the figures.

Since this government has decided that a "war on Drugs" is needed I have found it increasingly more difficult to gain a steady, reliable supply of cannabis, this may some say be the "war on drugs" working, however I have found it increasingly easier to source a steady supply of ecstasy, cocaine, amphetamine, ketamine and even methamphetamine (this is much more worrying)! These substances I feel are far more dangerous to society in general and should be the substances that are cracked down upon. However these are now easier to get hold of and becoming increasingly cheaper, ecstasy pills are now cheaper than a pint of beer! Now politicians wonder why drugs are becoming more widespread in youth culture! Well the reason being it’s now cheaper to get off your head on ecstasy than by a “legal” drug like alcohol and the effects last longer! Meaning people can now go out and spend £10 and last the whole night!!

I for one would like to know if there is anything we can do? Who do I write to? Who do I speak with?
At present this contamination seems to have no long term adverse effects but surely only time will tell! I feel its time I acted now rather than wait for these effects to become apparent!

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: wholespud (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 01:58PM

Quote:
SkunkMunkey3000
in theory THC is disolvable in alcohol (making a tincture), im guessing that these glass beads are not, so this should be a suitable way of separating. Im guessing then that you can separate the THC and alcohol by GENTLY heating until all the liquid has disolved.otherwise if you dont wanna cook the tincture to separate u can make top class drink by mixin 1/2 pint of gin with a Q, leave in cupboard for about 2months (until it goes greenish) and then drink SLOWLY!!!(it really messes u up). You get an amazing drink which gets u both pissed and stoned!

I did a similar thing with vodka! except i also put in a bag of skittles to give it a fruity flavour! I started this off by just putting my stalks in it but have decided that with current supply i put most of my dust in it! Also remember to sieve it or you will end up drinking what ever the stuff is contaminated with!

Another word of warning, be careful how long you leave it as the sugar from skittles will begin to fement meaning that it will well and truely knock your socks off!!!!!

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: Alun (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 03:16PM

LCA is receiving reports about weed being sprayed with sugar solution so that it looks nice and shiny covered with crystals - well presumably it was pretty uselss stuff if the growers or dealers have to do that

reports from Brighton and the South East coast

look out for this - it may not seem or taste gritty but it should taste sweet like sugar

it's really not a good idea to smoke sugar - all one can say is that if grit, glass, sugar or kak soap bar is all you can buy - start saving your money and get a small grow going and in the meantime, be kind but mean to yourself by not smoking anything.

So long as people buy, the greediest dealers will sell it

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: Derek (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 03:27PM

This has been mentioned in another thread actually.

Good old Frank has updated his health warning with this gem of information:

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frank
You can never tell what’s in a drug just by looking at it. It’s always risky – and sometimes this risk can have a very dangerous outcome. That’s why we’ve highlighted this recent Department of Health Warning for you to read. We feel it’s important you know all the facts.

Which of course is a load of dingo's kidneys, they did it because we shamed them into doing so. However, they say this about alcohol:

Quote:
frank
Because it's almost always legal and sold only in licensed premises, alcoholic drinks don’t usually contain anything in them that shouldn’t be there.

So, in his own twisted and misinforming way, Talk to Frank is aware that contamination is caused by drugs being illegal. Of course, we know this, we know that the government is aware of this situation - after we told them.

The government is using contamination as a weapon to support their prohibition policy, they make drugs more dangerous than would otherwise be the case in order to deter use. They do this in the full knowledge that it doesn't work...

Derek

Webteam UKCIA

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: BoBiZmE (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 04:11PM

Quote:
SkunkMunkey3000
in theory THC is disolvable in alcohol (making a tincture), im guessing that these glass beads are not, so this should be a suitable way of separating. Im guessing then that you can separate the THC and alcohol by GENTLY heating until all the liquid has disolved.otherwise if you dont wanna cook the tincture to separate u can make top class drink by mixin 1/2 pint of gin with a Q, leave in cupboard for about 2months (until it goes greenish) and then drink SLOWLY!!!(it really messes u up). You get an amazing drink which gets u both pissed and stoned!

I have just the crystals mixed with the glass, will this work: Put the crystals mixed with glass in a 35cl bottle of vodka wait 1 month sieve out cack and drink?

Great idea by the way!

Thanks

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: BoBiZmE (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 04:48PM

Also there was a warning about the grit weed on south west tv, they said it was being reported in Plymouth and smokers should take care.

We all know its not just Plymouth this a country wide problem and needs to be on the main news, what are they waiting for? I bet if prince harry or tony blair's son smoked it and became ill it would be all over the news!

I know for a fact that there are people out there that are still selling and smoking this shit either because they have not heard (smokers) or they are scum (dealers< they must know by now) because I told a mate just yesterday about it and low and behold he had some and was smoking it none the wiser, he has now stopped.

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: ZeroGrrl (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 06:30PM

Quote:
Alun
LCA is receiving reports about weed being sprayed with sugar solution so that it looks nice and shiny covered with crystals - well presumably it was pretty uselss stuff if the growers or dealers have to do that
reports from Brighton and the South East coast

look out for this - it may not seem or taste gritty but it should taste sweet like sugar
Seen this in the Peterborough area, too.

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: Puffer (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 07:37PM

The sugar coating is a very old trick. Been going on for years.

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: h144ron (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 08:20PM

me too got 8 oz of it in Essex( also 120 an oz). But its been soo dry since november i have to take what i can get. its all gone now and was a heavy stonedness but very sharp on the throat, but hey it can't be no worse than smoking in general. i know thats not the point but as many have said on this thread "its better than nowt"

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: interzonefreak (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 09:16PM

HI.

Can i first say what a great source of info this is (it might save people's lives)

I have been watching this post develop for a while now after coming across some crunchy weed in Nottingham in September, at the time there wasn't much info and it was searching for info regarding what the crunchy substance was that lead me here.

Nottingham hasn't seemed to bad and up until now had only purchased a small bit.


I would like to give a warning though:-

After picking up some dutch skunk earlier in the week (as in - good dutch skunk!) I was offered some more for a different source, I checked it didn't look like the same type as the previous contaminated stuff (up until now the contaminated weed has always looked very similar - i.e like really good standard dutch skunk).

Although it looked different unfortunately it is also contaminated - the weed looked darker than before and seemed a bit sweet - unlike the original contaiminated batch it was not obvious to the eye that it looked wierd, i.e it didn't seem to have the 'ultra shiny' crystals. .. But it sure as hell has a crunch ... Not as bad as previous contaminated batch but a crunch all the same.

Goes to show the only way to be %100 sure is to lick the weed .......

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: mustard (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 09:24PM

I'm very worried about contamination and like many others on these forums, giving up is looking like the only option.

I have seen many samples that are, without question, grit weed.
But, now i'm looking at every sample and seeing it but I can't be sure because of the varying degrees of contamination.

I'm looking for some advice and help on this.
Judging by some of the more extreme photos that showed blatant glass beads to the shots of weed with sand in it, I now wonder whether another blemish(?) is in fact a contaminent.

Looked at some incredible looking bud yesterday which also smelled great.
Upon putting a single bud up to the light, I could see what looked like small, really tiny silvery bits on various parts of the bud like fairy lights on a christmas tree.
Is that normal?.

There is no grit sound when you bite the bud and no residue either, but when you put it in your hand to break it up, you can also see little tiny silvery specks and not that many either in my small sample.
It is really dark green bud which doesnt taste great.
Should i be freaked out my small specks of silver.
Is that fact that it isnt fairly sizeable glass beads to be taken as something I shouldn't worry about?.
Thanks in advance!

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: Misty (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 09:35PM

urghhhh i got some bud last night (manchester area) and it was truly disgusting, been smoking for 20yrs and never smoked anything like it, the baccy in the j burnt but the so called bud didnt and went rock hard, i was left with a stick of black hard stuff, was totally puzzled until i mentioned it to a mate who told me to look on this website, i wont be buying that shit again. Its bad enough having to deal with bits of kids selling underweight bags but to find out its contaminated with sand/glass is bang out of order!!

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: webby691 (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 10:42PM

would it help smoking it thorugh a tip coz i have few spliffs worth and it smells gd

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: coastalad (IP Logged)
Date: February 02, 2007 01:58AM

After pointing it out to your dealer, if they are still selling this shit, GRASS THE BASTARD UP!
They dont give a fuck about youre welfare so why care about theirs?

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: BoBiZmE (IP Logged)
Date: February 02, 2007 04:34PM

HELLO PEOPLE DO YOU READ THESE POSTS?? Namely : interzonefreak & Misty.

To quote SOAD "SUGAR!!!"

Grow your own, ain't hard and you wont get caught unless you are stupid. You will not get a criminal record as people have said in this post previously unless you have a mass of plants eg 6-10 or more which you are obviously going to sell on, if you have only 2-3 and just say they are are for personal consumption because your worried about smoking glass they will just take them away and you will get a caution at most!

You may ask "how do I know this?" but I wont tell you.

LUV to UKCIA especially Derek < RESPEK!

CHOI......

Re: Skunk Contamination
Posted by: stormeagle (IP Logged)
Date: February 02, 2007 06:16PM

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BoBiZmE
Grow your own, ain't hard and you wont get caught unless you are stupid. You will not get a criminal record as people have said in this post previously unless you have a mass of plants eg 6-10 or more which you are obviously going to sell on, if you have only 2-3 and just say they are are for personal consumption because your worried about smoking glass they will just take them away and you will get a caution at most!

"It is possible for the police to have and to retain records of a person who was cautioned, reprimanded or warned for an offence, even if no charges are brought. The Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) does hold information about police cautions, reprimands, and warnings"
I disagree, cautions are (or can be) held on record - if they werent, how else would they know when they'd cautioned you 4 or 5 times for the same thing?

Quote:
BoBiZmE
6-10 or more which you are obviously going to sell on
Again, disagree. Even if someone was growing 100 plants, there is NO WAY you can conclusively prove they were going to sell them, no matter how "obvious" you consider it to be - of course, if you have 100 plants your probably screwed, but that doesnt change the fact that it's quite possible for someone to grow that many for personal use!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2007 06:22PM by stormeagle.

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