If you click on it Derek you can read it, the image is quite HQ so have a read see what you think.

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witalit
If you click on it Derek you can read it, the image is quite HQ so have a read see what you think.

Ah yes, so you can :) And there we are indeed!

Nice one Witalit

Derek

Webteam UKCIA

When I see it I was like shit gotta take a photo of this lol. I have a HQ picture of it but had to resize it because ImageShack does not allow you to upload anything bigger than 1MB. If you would like the HQ photo I can send it via email.

grow it yaself.
sell it yaself.
smoke it yaself.
it will help kill sand weed.
same as makin ur own hash will kill soapbar.

Hey all, I'd heard about this gritweed for a while but never have had the pleasure of actually seeing any myself until last friday. Since the drought last year my weed supply up here in Aberdeen has consisted of getting (mainly) far too wet homegrown as the local growers rush it out far too early to make that little bit of extra cash. Terrible stuff- get a quarter of it, dry it out, watch it turn into an eighth! Neglect to dry it out and you've got a nice bag of mould to smoke. Quality. My dealer's been quite lucky it seems, as he'd never seen any of it until the last batch, which seems to be the newer kind of gritweed (very fine particles, very difficult to spot). I smoked about a gram and a half before i twigged that the powdery sensation on the tip of my tongue wasn't right, then checked the whole lot. It was orange bud like has been previously described with tiny glass particles littered all the way through. It also scratched cd's.

I gave it all back to my dealer who's cool about discerning customers and once he'd checked it agreed about what it was, it's very difficult to spot. We speculated that this may have been gritweed that had been cleaned to remove the larger particles.

This is sinister stuff, why the fuck would anyone do this to weed? Dealers greed is the obvious answer but surely with options like brix available there must be less harmfull adulterants that can still boost your profits if you're an arse. What kind of drug dealer wants to maim his clientelle? It doesn't make sense. The idea of a mass conspiracy is more appealing although equally ludicrous.

It's interesting to note that in the news there was that thing about the scientists who said we should reclassify Britains drug laws according to the scale of harm that these drugs do. As we all know dope wouldn't have been very high on that list but dope with glass in it?

Wait until some idiots die - or cripple their health with it. And watch the reactionary media crusade ensue, weeping families in the daily mail - 'please stop this scourge' - 'evil dealers are killing nations cannabis smokers' - 'government must do something about killer cannabis; police given new powers to stamp out the evil weed' etc.

Now some may call me cynical, and that's fine.

The problem of a conspiracy would be that it's on an international level and the sheer logistics of such an operation are terrifying but in some way the government is too blame, perhaps just because of our standing in the international community.
I think it was Howard Marks (perhaps not, it could of been someone else) said that if you want to see what other countries think of another, look at the quality of the drugs that are sold to them. Judging from this gritweed there are definately people out there who do not want the UK public getting high and happy - they want to hurt them.

What a fucked up world we live in.

Peace and Love

The Rev.



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hi canna people peace men ye added crystals are round and square pices of class used in shotblasting and window frosting bussinesses and are added to look like crystals of cannaboiloids but allas only grystals of class these are added to give much more weight so you lose about 50% by volume of your lovely green rip of why not post addresses on net you know who theyARE

We can say all we like. People are still buying this doctored skunk, giving no incentive for the dealers to stop.

I've come across alot of the glassy stuff in north london, but there's much worse to come: now the powder is much finer, doesn't contain gritty particles, and potentially is small enough to attach itself to your lungs.

It is fairly easy to recognise:

The amount of crystal-like substance is excessive - especially in places where they should not be, like on the stalks

The smell is sharp

The taste is slightly chemical and bitter

Smoking it gives you a tight throat or chest - try breathing out like for a breathalyser, and your effort will be very weak

It can give you a headache, visual abnormality, and the same quantity doesn't get you as high as usual

This is the real danger: most smokers will begrudgingly smoke it if that's all that is available

This last powdery stuff confuses me slightly, as the amount appears good (unlike the gritty shit).

N.B: if you must smoke it (i've been there), try washing it in water and then dry it out on a radiator. and use a filter. stopping sometimes isn't an option!

Someone contacted UKCIA with the following advice:

Dear fellow cannabis enthusiasts,

The UKCIA is wrong about the finger-licking test to see if the marijuana has been adulterated.

The only effective test that works with the weed here in Paris is to chew a little piece.

Why? Because they use hairspray or other (chef's knowledge) materials to make the powders stick and blend. Some weeds (a lot actually) look normal here in Paris. If you chew them, however, you will notice they are full of fibre glass. This renders the UKCIA recommendation totally uneffective.

I have chewed several samples that looked normal, and they were full of fibreglass.

Some had only a little bit of fibreglass added. For these kinds, you need to chew a slightly bigger piece of bud properly to detect it.

It's important to spit out the marijuana after.

If the UKCIA continues to recommend the finger-licking test, they are only helping dealers. They should recommend the chewing-test, while at the same time warning that only scientific tests will be 100% sure.

Chewing clean marijuana should only taste like bitter plant material. It should not be sweet or crunchy or powdery at all.

Some of the weed here is cut with sugar. My doctor says that's far better than the fibre glass and silica (she had a very worried look on her face when I mentioned silica).

Crystals are made of fat, not "crystals"-crystals is a bad name for it?

My doctor says that the chewing test might even not be effective enough, and recommends I don't smoke anything I haven't grown myself.

Oscar

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I told him about Brix, he didn't know about that stuff.

I think the truth is there's a range of contaminants and his doctor gave the best advice.

Derek

Webteam UKCIA

So it is going a bit forward here in the Nordics. The coppers in Helsinki, Finland has taken a huge load of weed and some dealers. The papers (Sanoma group) is saying the weed is bad and contains something that might be harmful. I hope they put this guys behind bars for a very very long time for doing harm to people. Lets now pray that that was the end for grit weed in Finland. Big Love, J

WARNING!

EVEN THE CHEW TEST ISN'T ENOUGH. THE CONTAMINANT IN THE LATEST BATCHES ARE JUST FINE POWDER WHICH WILL PASS THIS TEST.

THE SUPPLIERS HAVE RESPONDED TO THE RELUCTANCE OF CONSUMERS TO SMOKE THIS GRITTY SKUNK BY ADULTERATING IT WITH A FINER MIX, POTENTIALLY MORE HARMFUL TO THE LUNGS (THE GRIT PARTICLES ARE TOO LARGE).

I TRIED RINSING IT IN WATER, AND AFTER THE FOURTH TIME, THERE WAS STILL AN UNUSUAL AMOUNT OF BLACK SPECKS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GLASS.

Is ther usually tiny black specks i8n any weed after u grind it?

If there was fibreglass in it how wud i know? Are fibreglass particles not tiny?

This shit is over the top now. Grow your own or know your supply.

it's the fact that the black specks sink to the bottom that worries me. is that natural? you tell me

What is clear is this:

This won't stop until we consumers refuse to buy contaminated draw

The danger is skunk. if you want to avoid particles of burnt fibreglass, sand, rubber, sugar, dog shit, battery acid and whatever else irreversibly attaching themselves to your lungs, try not to smoke skunk for a while.

This is not a problem associated with other forms of the drug. Try smoking weed, thai, polly, anything but punk till this all dies down. don't touch soap that's been full of shit for years.

STEPS TO TAKE

First chew some. If it's crunchy/gritty it's 100percent contaminated.
Then, even if no crunch, just use your noggin - if it's abnormally crystally, yet doesnt smell like top class boodle, be suspicious. if you just lightly touch it and a huge amount of 'crystals' are left on your fingers, it's probably sprayed on powder.
There is a smell which I associate with it, though i can't describe it, which is a bit sweet.
Finally if when you smoke it, and you feel anything strange, such as tight chest, throat, headache etc. you've probably got crap on it.
I thought i was just being a prang stoner about the last one, till other people i know had the same tightness in the chest.

Look after you and yours. don't trust the dealer who says 'na bruv this ain't the same shit as before.' it's down to you to protect your own health

Ive had the potent shizzite once in the past like 2 months. That is ridiculous considering the past where i always got potent shit.

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Is ther usually tiny black specks i8n any weed after u grind it?

Hello, yes, some heavier triconomes will sink to the bottom, they also become dark brownish, the contamination sinks and looks like a fine sant powder on the bottom. Mind me, there might be some new grit out.
However, if you take two pieces of glas and rub the suspected grit between you ll find out. Real crystals will me soft and sink in to eachouther forming a brown resin.
If anyone wants pictures from our testing of grit here in Finland, mail your email to: johanese666@hotmail.com

Be careful out there, you only have one pair of lungs.
J

on the subject of lil brown/black specks, about a year ago i picked up a quarter which had loads of these lil specks in it, htey looked like small poppy seeds, far to small and wrong shape and color to be weed seeds, after separating them i tried to figure out wot thet were but couldn't really gather much although very strangely they smelt almost menthol?! i only ever saw this weed once and both my dealer and presumably his have been fine since then,

anyways jus wanted to kno if any1 else had come across this before?

Just thought i'd add my recent experiences with the contamination....

The last couple of times i've picked up it's stunk the second it gets in the car and from what i can recall, stuff prior to thathas been relatively odourless.

One of em looks like lovely skunk and passes the lick and bite test, i dont think its sprayed but if i look hard enough i still reckon i can see small particles of glass, which is fucking annoying cos i'm guessing these bastards have wised up to the crunch test etc and put in finer particles.

The other stuff was really compressed and has left some white crap on the inside of the baggy that isn't particles (and as far as i can tell, isn't the same as what you'd get from sprayed stuff). It also appears to leave alot of particles when a bud's put in a glass of water.

I only really noticed this after smoking some and both gave me a sore throat, the latter even altered the pitch of my voice somewhat (!) but i will attribute that indirectly as a result of having a fucked throat.

Anyway, bottom line is it's nigh on impossible to tell what's contaminated and what isn't, i am barely smoking weed at all now which is annoying and have even ended up smoking rollies because i crave smoking SOMETHING, i'm sure i'm not the only person whos tobacco consumption has risen since the contamination, isn't that great!

What's worse is since most tell tale signs have gone, thousands are STILL going to be smoking this because they aren't vigilant enough, even chomping on really crunchy draw didn't deter many people i know from smoking it! Are we really going to have to wait til somebody gets seriously injured/dies before people/the government take it seriously!

Homegrown is the way forward then!!

Finally i'd just like to ask if anybody knows the correct pronounciation of (operation) 'Keymer', is it 'KEE-mer' or 'KAY-mer'? I only ask because i've named one of my songs after it and would like to say it aloud correctly haha www.myspace.com/nomadesense if you want to hear it!

Hi Leo

Don't forget that decent herbal cannabis should have little sparkly crystal on it - and it should smell a bit!

It was operation kay-mer.

Interestingly Keymer was supposed to have been a short sharp "nip in the bud" for the commercial cannabis growers. It's still going on, but I don't think it's called Keymer anymore

Derek

Webteam UKCIA

Hey,

yeah 'kay-mer' is how i thought it was so that's clarifyed it cheers!

Yeah i think chances are one of my draws is safe from contamination, i mentioned the smell because it made me realise that the crap i could only get hold of beforehand had no real scent, i'd forgotten how nice it was for the car to reek of weed the second i pick up!

There's been about 19 cannabis 'factories' busted in my town this year which is a crazy number, i would be interested to know whether any of these had the equipment required for spraying etc, it's a shame that so much unadulterated cannabis is leaving here never to be smoked!!!