wow...well there u go - bad.analytical thankyou so much...i sent of two samples to the LCA so ask derek or alun . when you touch the sample you feel tiny pricks like you would having a catus hair.
its reflextive...my pics are somewhere in pages 6 or 7.. i think.

so whats the next step...i have notice though that people even tho they were ignorant on smoking this in the beginning people have listened and have refused this shite.
think its time to spread the word..

thanks thelizardqueen - I'm away for few days so have not received samples yet but will be on to it mext Monday. You're quite correct, some people mfeel desparate enough that they will smoke anything if that's all they can get, and some dealers so greedy that they will sell it anyway.

Same as that dreaded soap bar - we've spent several years putting out info and fliers and people still smoke it - because they often don't know what real cannabis is like as that is all they can get or afford

I doubt whether we'll ever change that, but at least many people have now turned their backs on kak hash.

So we tell the press, the MP's and the tokers - that's all we can do.

I've received suggestions on newspaper forums where we've raised this issue, that we find the dealers responsible and tell the police. I don't go with that myself and in any case I doubt whether it would do much good, as we've said already. High prices and low quality cheers them up and makes them believe that their policies are working.

I don't believe police are behind the contamination or interested in stopping it. They're more interested in nicking people like THC4MS

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You certainly know your stuff O_O, your work into this contamination is appreachieated by many im sure.
Would this substance still pose any threat if the smoke passes threw water? Im intrested to know, because ive smoked alot of this contaminated cannabis threw bongs (aswell as joints) the last few months. Not so much recently, but i have smoked a good 4oz of this...

I would like to know this as well.

I imagine the water would filter out the silica? particles, I think this is the case cause after I've smoked some I can see loads of 'dust' floating in the bong water.

As for the 'lubricants' that might wind up in the smoke, who knows. Anybody know what is in this?

Is the safest way to consume sandweed eating it?



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I would guess smoking through water would be the best option as regards the beads, but any oily stuff - glue or whatever - would burn and be a part of the smoke.

I am trying to get some attention to this, but of course at this time of year everyone's on holiday. But what I have discovered is that not only aren't they interested in getting warning messages out about contmainated illegal drugs, the government has no mechanism in place to actually do it apparently.

It should come under the dept of health, but drugs policy comes under the Home Office - hence the lack of warnings about the contaminated heroin which is killing people at the moment. Any warnings which are issued come from the police.

This is unbelievable but true. Talk to Frank of course is an advertising agency paid to make stupid adverts, it isn't geared up to responding to emergencies and only runs its daft campaigns as instructed by the home Office.

Derek

Webteam UKCIA

Just my own thoughts, When I grow one of the best mediums I use is 1/3 sand, 1/3 Perlite, 1/3 peat compost and I have never found anything better. I got this recipe from somewhere so I doubt I am the only one who uses it and it would explain the proximity of sand to the plants. How it got into the bud of course is quite another matter which I couldn't guess at.

im not sure what you quite mean puffer? so u you a contaminate on the plant??
mmmmmm please explain,.,very confused..

that gritty shite is here in the North West too, i come from a small town next to Liverpool called Widnes. I avoid buying the shit, other people buy it all the time, they no nothing about cannabis,i try to tell them but you get laffed at, i dont bother to help no more

>im not sure what you quite mean puffer? so u you a contaminate on the plant??

Not at all. That is what I use as a growing medium instead of soil. Most decent growers have a favorite recipe for the medium.

It is just possible that whoever has produced this gritty stuff has fucked it up by somehow (don't ask me how, I haven't a clue!) getting the growing mix in with the dried weed rather than it being deliberate contamination which I really cannot see any good reason to do.

BTW I got the recipe wrong. It is 1 part Perlite, 1 part Vermiculite, 1 part sand and 1 part peat compost.

Good post outcast, I've just posted around some other forums...

winnie

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Due to contamination,

Winnies advice for 2007..

Only use reputable dealers please!

And/or

Grow your own!

Confessions THC4MS 3, including UKCIA mods,

[www.lca-uk.org]

and learn to put little differences aside and unite to fight for the right to take cannabis!

Hi All,

I have been reading all your posts with great interest! Badanalytical stuff is particulary interesting - im looking forward to hearing more findings from any further analyis. Have to say that it is not looking good. I am fairly light user - I generally have a smoke on standby for when i come back home from a night out having had a skinful. This is when im most in need of a weed - i dont bother to much the rest of the time. I got some of this crappy grit weeed about six weeks ago. Came home leathered, skinned up went to bed and then crunch!! Needless to say i got the fear lying there in bed! However i smoked most of the eighth over the period of about a month and threw the last bit away. I told my dealer about it and he fobbed it off!

I have been looking around for a new dealer and a friend put me in touch with a new guy. Happy days i thought. Got an eighth tonight, did the pre smoke tongue crunch test and low and behold more shitty gritty weed! I live in Manchester and both dealers are asian which of course may be completely irrelevant or maybe not or maybe im just getting the fear again? Maybe this is some long term terroist plot or maybe they are just trying to add weight to the weed for financial gain but then why use such a light additive - why not something heavier? Badanalytical stated that the stuff has a light density! It sucks, im obviously gonna have to give it up and i hope i and indeed we dont suffer from ingesting it orally or inhaling!

>both dealers are asian which of course may be completely irrelevant

Why irrelevant? It sure ain't the Ruskies. They use Polonium 210!

yo im from north sides its ok round here not much sand going about>>>

Hey puffer you trying to compound me fear man :o)

Seriously though this is a serious worry. i have just come back from one of my nights and low and behold i would kill for a jo! What do i see an eighth ! Curse me for not throwing out the FUCKING window. Im afraid I am unable to resist (and im sure this is the case for many a similar poor desperate soul!). Therefore i have taken a few measures. I am a professional safety specialist and there are a few basic principles!

E. Elliminate (Cut it out all together) hard but the no.1 option :(
R. Reduce (smoke it like me - once in a blue moon - you appreciate it more and rarely get the fear)
I. Isolate. Now this could equally sit in Ruduce but the use of a FILTER (AVAILABLE IN ALL CIGARETTE SELLING SHOPS) WILL prevent any particularites directly passing into your lungs! OBVIOUSLY THIS DOESNT PROTECT you from the potential toxic chemical reaction and subsequent toxic fumes which may be generated carcinogenic but im relying on badanalysis to confirm this. Assume its not good!
C. Control. Taste it once. Dont ingest it more than neccesary!. Wash your hands after you have touched it. Avoid contact with the eyes and "sensitive areas". The usual stuff!.

Be careful - dont give em an easy ride!

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I live in Manchester and both dealers are asian which of course may be completely irrelevant or maybe not or maybe im just getting the fear again?

The race is total illelevant, everyone and anyone can get it.

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im not sure what you quite mean puffer? so u you a contaminate on the plant??

he was just talking about the soil he users, soil with some sand and perlite init is better than just normal soil for growing; because it doesnt suffocate the roots allowing more air in there.



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ok iv heard all the facts bout the glass frosting.... and iv seeen alot of bad shit going round....but the green i got is fluffy light green, lots of crystals....so it looks good but has a taste of sweets or sum kind of sweetness can any 1 explain y my green is sweet??? last week in this other bath of green i found a light green paste its soft an tastes v sweet?? if any1 can help...it would b brilliant!!!

nick 88 can u possible take a photo and ask derek to post it on here...
ive came across this light playdo looking thing. i suggest tho to not smoke it..its not proper weed so why smoke it..its contaminated

from what ive read so far they do add glucose to it - to add sweetness. maybe you have had a batch thats completely full of the stuff...and most probably more contaminates especially if it looks fat n crystally.
tell you what - why dont u do the taste test...if it even crunches in your mouth then its definatly contaminated.or try rolling a glass across ur bud...tap it on the paper and tell us what you come up with.

so then u have the choice to either smoke it or not. hope that helps...x maybe send a bit in...especially the playdo stuff...then it could be tested. then u would know for sure.

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I live in Manchester and both dealers are asian which of course may be completely irrelevant or maybe not or maybe im just getting the fear again?

The race is total illelevant, everyone and anyone can get it.

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im not sure what you quite mean puffer? so u you a contaminate on the plant??

he was just talking about the soil he users, soil with some sand and perlite init is better than just normal soil for growing; because it doesnt suffocate the roots allowing more air in there.

cheers for that...didnt understand what he/she wrote.. :-)

dont worry about sweet or slightly salty weed, it is literally just sucrose and salt solutions sprayed onto the bud in the belief that itll make the bud look crystalline when dry. Just make sure you buy it when its dry otherwise you're paying quite a lot for a few mls of water! as long as its not gritty and doesnt have a horrible chemical smell then you'll be fine. have a good nye everyone!

bad.analytical wrote: "dont worry about sweet or slightly salty weed"

I wouldn't want to smoke sugar or salt either - and yes I would worry for any dealer who would sell you that should be avoided.

If they don't agree to take it back without question, don't buy

Alun

exactly alun....