do we ALL have a bag of this stuff to look at and compare? lol!

Are you 100% on that Xeman?

I'm hoping that you are, but I've certainly found sachets of crystalline powder not at all disimilar to this when purchasing luggage, shoes and sundry items.

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Are you 100% on that Xeman?
I'm hoping that you are, but I've certainly found sachets of crystalline powder not at all disimilar to this when purchasing luggage, shoes and sundry items.

can't be 100% but according to everything I looked up yes, if you look at the beads under large magnification where would the moisture be kept?
and they are def hard beads

Having about a half of the sandweed I decided the best way to consume it was to turn it into cannabutter.

I used the big pan of boiling water add butter and the grit weed method.

Now I boiled it for a good while, while it was hot got all the green stuff out which I chucked. Cooled it down then washed the soldified butter under the tap.

Ate some and there didn't seem to be any grit in it.

Is this a safe of consuming it? I figure it is as:
- The gritweed doesn't get hotter than 100c so the adhesive doesn't melt and absorb into the butter.
- It goes into your stomach so if there is any sand/adhesive left it is relatively harmless?

Get's me nicely stoned as well!

Any thoughts?

yeah, the bastard phoned me up when i was off my head on mdma and sketched the fuck out of me and basically stretched two or three sentences to fit 45 minutes of total bollocks. still, i wouldnt mind finding out how much of it he was actually telling the truth about

you know what guys theres never gonna be a health warning.this crap has been around since july.the powers that be dont give a shit about the likes of you and i.several of my smoking buddies have quit.think i gonna join them.will never smoke grit weed again anyway.cheerio x

Don't give up smoking, but also don't smoke grit weed. In fact, becoming only a semi-regular stoner will make you appreciate its effects MUCH MORE! Oh yes, don't smoke any pot for a couple of weeks, and one joint of decent bud will knock you off your feet!

It is to easy to become acclimitized to smoking cannabis. Though most pot smokers have compulsive addictive personalities, I know I do. Still, not having mj everyday actually makes you appreciate those times when you do smoke!

I know this is a view that many people here will disagree with, but whatever. Just my two cents!

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Don't give up smoking, but also don't smoke grit weed. In fact, becoming only a semi-regular stoner will make you appreciate its effects MUCH MORE! Oh yes, don't smoke any pot for a couple of weeks, and one joint of decent bud will knock you off your feet!
It is to easy to become acclimitized to smoking cannabis. Though most pot smokers have compulsive addictive personalities, I know I do. Still, not having mj everyday actually makes you appreciate those times when you do smoke!

I know this is a view that many people here will disagree with, but whatever. Just my two cents!

too true, but easier said than done

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most pot smokers have compulsive addictive personalities, I know I do.

I'm not sure I would concur with that at all; aside from the fact that I certainly do not have an addictive personality (and I could have, 'cos addiction problems run in my family), this kind of statement makes a mockery of us slamming the 'gateway drug' theory...

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very nice SEM pics, were they done in UK? Thats exactly what I was aiming to do but the academic year doesnt start for a few days. Im thinking that the smaller particles probably originate from the manufacturing process of the micro beads as they are for industrial rather than scientific use so wouldnt have to be as 'clean'.
To the person who did the SEM pics: Do you have the ability to do a seperation and qualitative analysis (nmr or similar) of the resultant solution of an organic extraction. Im interested to see what the non plant oils present are- they might pose a greater risk than the micro beads?

The person doesn't want to come on the forum, but sent me this reply:

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Re. Bad analytical, Thanks for your comments. Sadly, I don't have easy acces to NMR, but at some point in the future I may have access to an old GC/MS, though it's hard to tell how easy it would be to get enough time on it without too many people asking what I'm up to. (BTW, well done regarding the original analysis).
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Derek

Webteam UKCIA

Good to get a reply, Its a shame we have to be so 'underground' about it all but thats the nature of the business.
It would be nice if people stopped the speculation over what the grit is though, we know with almost 100% certainty that the contaminant of the (analysed) batches are glass micro beads- if you have found other contaminants, then please send an analysis, ill even give you instructions for a 'ghetto' procedure. But stop saying 'its sillica gel', 'its fibre glass' or whatever without any evidence, its not helpful and spreads misinformation- ive seen the analysis' on this thread posted on about 20 forums, people are starting to take notice. Further speculation is only going to muddy what is beginning to be a clarified picture of the current contamination situation.

Anyone want instructions for analysing their samples? The necessary equipment for a basic analysis will cost you about 30 quid, but well worth it.

Just got off the phone with the Leicester Mercury newspaper - have passed on all relevant information on this along with this web address.

They seemed to know nothing about this, and are hopefully going to print something on the matter. I'll keep you posted.

Also spoke with Leicester Royal Infirmary PALS, who advised that they wouldn't handle any publicity themselves and suggested I contact the Department of Health directly (contact details available at www.dh.gov.uk)

I'll be contacting them later this afternoon; it might be an idea for everyone else who's come in to contact with this grit weed to do likewsie, to highlight the scale of the problem still further.

Point taken on the above post; as I stated clearly when I made reference to silica crystals earlier in the thread, this was uncorroborated information.



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WE need samples to compare - also they may be of help in certain pending court cases PLEASE send a small sample of the grit, glass, sand or whatever it happens to be, in a sealed plastic baggie to LCA, PO Box 198, Norwich, NR3 3WB add a note saying "contaminated cannabis" and the name of the town where it was purchased.

It may sound strange with so many people chatting about this, but I've found it almost impossible to get a sample, except one froma forum member here.

Excellent, can you tell us if/when anything gets published. I'm in another part of the country so won't see that paper.

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Anyone want instructions for analysing their samples? The necessary equipment for a basic analysis will cost you about 30 quid, but well worth it.

- Very much, please share. Your work and that of the other chemists on this is MUCH appreciated by us all.

Aha, just seen your thread :)

Still about in Bedford at the moment. I've been turning it down for a while. I think I may of only smoked around a henry of the stuff when it first hit the scene.

Has anyone come across anyone getting ill from the stuff ? What health risks can we expect ? Long term ?

I'm quite worried..

no, only the usual "my mates aunties friend at work knew someone whos brother ended up in hospital from it".

I wouldnt worry too much, theres not a lot you could do anyway and an 8th is bugger all really. Chronic smokers who get through a half or more a week since this stuff hit the market should probably worry though. Especially smoking unfiltered pipes and that sort of thing.

I noticed after getting through about a quarter of it that my chest felt tight and I had a bad cough for about 2 weeks, quite unusual considering I rarely smoke and am in good health. Most people seem to complain about 'pressure' in their chest or wheezing afterwards, but your body tends to be quite resilient when it comes to dealing with short exposure to bad things.

Dont worry, just stop buying!

Hi there,

Can someone with technical knowledge help me. I has been claimed that smoking the skunk with a filter stops the glass beads entering the lungs. Do the filters actually filter particles of this size? I use swan filter tips but surprisingly cannot find any technical data. If they do help stop these beads how effective are they?

Also can i get somemore views as to how much skunk would need to be smoked before causing concern of acute or any other form of silicosis or related disease.
Personaly i have been exposed to this type of skunk since october but have always used filter tips. I have now stopped smoking any gritty skunk. Any medical advice would be appreciated.

DO FILTERS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE CHANCE OF INHALING THE BEADS?


Cheers,



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you could always seperate a load of the grit and try blowing it through a filter on to a clean glass plate or mirror