I live near Liverpool, this stuff is rife!

I think it's all the imported stuff thats got all this shit on, all the english I get is clean, no grit etc...

One of my best mates has had nothing but this sprayed shite and continues to ignore my warnings. Besides him being ripped off and many other small sellers out there, they are damaging their health and of others around them.

The best way is to boycott the dealer, I won't go to anyone with the sprayed shit and I try to tell people not to smoke it! I won't even buy it off my mates anymore! Just a fella who's a critic like me and knows good green when he sees it. I have smoked nothing but english since I came back from Amsterdam because it's the closest thing I can get the real good bud. All this 'dutchy' coming over is just jarg arse weed !

There used to be two choices: skunk with bugs in it, or skunk without bugs in it because its been sprayed with pesticide. Now we have a third choice: skunk with ground glass in it. Three million regular cannabis users in the UK are now being exposed to toxic crap, when they could/should be smoking a relatively harmless herb. This is the inevitable consequence of prohibition: a government policy which abdicates the production and supply of cannabis to gangsters. Things are likely to get much worse. Since legalisation is still decades away, if you don't want to get damaged by smoking weed, there is only one solution: grow your own. You know it makes sense, so get yourself a growing light, a fan, some plant-pots and soil, and some seeds/clones. Its really not that tricky, makes a great hobby, gives you cheap clean smoke - and gets us alienated city-dwellers back in touch with nature.

Hey, i've been smokin skunk for a few years now. I live in north west england and today bought some skunk off a new dealer. I was surprised at the amount i got for a tenner but considered it a good deal. At first it seemed like the ususla good skunk i smoke. 5 minutes later and my head and chest started feeling tight, i went outside for some fresh air and nearly passed out. The colours i could see were changing soo quickly and it was like someone messing with the contrast button on an old tv. I was really dizzy and shocked and it took nearly two whole cans of red bull to revive me. I was lucky my friend was at hand otherwise i would have been unconscios in the road. If he hadn't given me a drink im sure i would have passed out. Do not buy this skunk, if we dont buy the dealers wont sell

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The colours i could see were changing soo quickly and it was like someone messing with the contrast button on an old tv.

What's you problem? Sounds like a bloody good toke to me.

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The colours i could see were changing soo quickly and it was like someone messing with the contrast button on an old tv.

What's you problem? Sounds like a bloody good toke to me.

I really wanted to post that earlier, but couldn't think how to word it ... XD

You done the taste test, mate? Just sounds like very good shit to me.

In my opinion this is a knock on effect from so many providers being prosicuted by the police - meaning the farmer that dose it with passion for the whole event from seed to rizzla/pipe/bong/cake/brain. . Now we have a new breed of farmer who proply dont even smoke who is in it soley for the money - like touts at the game, and we all fall for it when out of despration u think fuck it it will do for now. . dont except it. We should all refuse to buy the shit - (cut off ur nose to dispite ur face) their are people out their who do their own !! ?? maybe a good way forward on this, the police cant arrest everyone, how many people actuly smoke the weed if every one was to provide their own do you think the police could or would be arsed to round us all up over maybe three plants each? and if the could where would they put us all??? in the intrest of the healf and safety of the vass amount of smokers we all should together become selfserficiant. . and fingers up to this new breed of farmer let them smoke it

ALL I CAN THINK OF IS WHAT A LOAD OF HEARTLESS BAS*ARDS.

"Cayenne"

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should we advice people to grow their own?

As it seems the safest way of avoiding this contaminated substances,

Mind you not everyone can grow, Some MS patients couldn't this is why you had the THC4MS providing chocolate, now Mark, Lezley and Marcus are awaiting sentence for helping people. I'm still finding it hard to get my head around the way these people have suffered for helping others

In Europe the latest thing is starting is CANNABIS SOCIAL CLUBS

[www.cannabis-clubs.eu]

I'm not sure if enough people in the UK have got the Courage to do this, although I'd like to think so.

Just wish they'd hurry up and allow the cannatrade to grow in this country.( pardon the intentional pun)

winnie

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Due to contamination,

Winnies advice for 2007..

Only use reputable dealers please!

And/or

Grow your own!

Confessions THC4MS 3, including UKCIA mods,

[www.lca-uk.org]

and learn to put little differences aside and unite to fight for the right to take cannabis!

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A good friend of mine first alerted me to this, after he had learned that a mate he used to go to school with had been smoking this contaminated weed, contracted turburculosis and later died from this. I know its a scary prospect but the threat to our health is very real

This is exactly why you should not believe everything you hear.

TB is an infection, and simply cannot be contracted this way.

Assuming your friend is not lying to you, we can assume this was either a complete coincidence, or the result of some serious Chinese Whispers...

Please, people; question everything. Scaremongering will only makethis situation more dangerous; we have enough to do trying to stop people smoking the stuff, without having to wade through a ton of misinformation put out on our side ofthe fence, too.

The government already think we are stoopid; let's not give them ammunition. ;)

If the stuff in this weed is Silica and it is able to penertrate our lungs then is is possible that it can lead to TB infection apparently.

From: [www.nlm.nih.gov]

"There is no specific treatment for silicosis. Removal of the source of silica exposure is important to prevent further worsening of the disease. Supportive treatment includes cough suppression medications, bronchodilators, and oxygen if needed. Antibiotics are prescribed for respiratory infections as needed.

Other considerations for treatment include limiting continued exposure to irritants, smoking cessation, and routine tuberculosis skin testing.

People with silicosis are at high risk for developing tuberculosis (TB). Silica is believed to interfere with the body's immune response to the bacteria that causes TB. Yearly skin testing to check for exposure to TB is recommended. Treatment with anti-TB drugs is recommended for people with a positive skin test. Any change in the appearance of the chest x-ray may indicate TB."

TB although contaigous is very difficult for a healthy person to catch - quite intense prolonged exposure is required - AFAIK. According to this though silica exposure may make it much easier to catch.

Just maybe then this guy dyeing of TB could be related to silica contaminated weed? I dont mean to scaremonger - I have smoked an ounce of this stuff myself. It is scary! no scaremongering required.

Hi I've been reading these forums and others for a while now first of all was very concerned I've been tokin for about 10 years now and cannot believe what these cocksuckers are doing our precious green!!

I'd been smoking this shit (i think) for months now I usually get a half at a time off my dealer he is a mate and friend of the family so don't know why he would rip me off i have asked him about it and he assures me that the green is not contaminated. Yet when im reading these posts i just cant help but wonder, I see people saying that if you lick the weed and it has a gritty texture then its contaminated but as far as i have been aware THC crystals also have a gritty texture hence the name "CRYSTAL", When I smoke this weed it does the job but i see that what the fucks contaminated was decent weed!
I still have Q left and scared to smoke but its all I have. Is there any chance anyone could post some pics of the contaminated weed so i can compare.
My weed does have a lot of GLASS/SILICA but these could also be just the the lovely THC?!
Smells bloody nice to!


And to 'weedprohibitionisacrime' us weed smokers are paranoid enough at the mo without you chatting shit! I got this quote from your link did you even read it?

'Intense exposure to silica may result in disease in a year or less, but it usually takes at least 10 or 15 years of exposure before symptoms develop. Silicosis has become less common since the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) instituted regulations requiring the use of protective equipment which limit the amount of silica dust inhaled.'

YES 10-15 YEARS OF INTENSE EXPOSURE!!!
If you get TB because of this green then i will give you my lungs!!

P.S SMOKING KILLS!!


LATERS__+

If the weed has the glass sphere in, lick the bud and you'll feel the glass crunching in your teeth, it's quite unmistakable.

But be aware there's almost certainly other forms of cotamination about now.

Derek

Webteam UKCIA

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Hi I've been reading these forums and others for a while now first of all was very concerned I've been tokin for about 10 years now and cannot believe what these cocksuckers are doing our precious green!!
I'd been smoking this shit (i think) for months now I usually get a half at a time off my dealer he is a mate and friend of the family so don't know why he would rip me off i have asked him about it and he assures me that the green is not contaminated. Yet when im reading these posts i just cant help but wonder, I see people saying that if you lick the weed and it has a gritty texture then its contaminated but as far as i have been aware THC crystals also have a gritty texture hence the name "CRYSTAL", When I smoke this weed it does the job but i see that what the fucks contaminated was decent weed!
I still have Q left and scared to smoke but its all I have. Is there any chance anyone could post some pics of the contaminated weed so i can compare.
My weed does have a lot of GLASS/SILICA but these could also be just the the lovely THC?!
Smells bloody nice to!


And to 'weedprohibitionisacrime' us weed smokers are paranoid enough at the mo without you chatting shit! I got this quote from your link did you even read it?

'Intense exposure to silica may result in disease in a year or less, but it usually takes at least 10 or 15 years of exposure before symptoms develop. Silicosis has become less common since the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) instituted regulations requiring the use of protective equipment which limit the amount of silica dust inhaled.'

YES 10-15 YEARS OF INTENSE EXPOSURE!!!
If you get TB because of this green then i will give you my lungs!!

P.S SMOKING KILLS!!


LATERS__+

Thanks BoBiZmE. Not all us weed smokers are paranoid. This is not shit this is potentially in your weed. In over 10 years of smoking weed I have never seen this type of contamination. I lack the chemical expertise to determin exatcly what it is but others who dont claim to have maybe found silica.

And BoBiZmE did you read the article. Exactly how quickly silica will affect your health depends on the amount of exposure.

* Simple chronic silicosis -- results from long-term exposure (more than 20 years) to low amounts of silica dust. Nodules of chronic inflammation and scarring provoked by the silica dust form in the lungs and chest lymph nodes. This disease may feature breathlessness and may resemble chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).
* Accelerated silicosis -- occurs after exposure to larger amounts of silica over a shorter period of time (5 - 15 years). Inflammation, scarring, and symptoms progress faster in accelerated silicosis than in simple silicosis.
* Acute silicosis -- results from short-term exposure to very large amounts of silica. The lungs become very inflamed and may fill with fluid, causing severe shortness of breath and low blood oxygen levels.


I'm sure not many people exposed ocupationally are heating the stuff up and inhaling it directly deep into there lungs.

People on this thread have stated they want to know more about the effects this has on our health. What I am saying rather politley is dont discount the possibility that there could be an increased risk of contracting TB.

TB? last time i heard, TB was caused by the bacteria Mycobacterium tuberculosis not glass particles!

Ye but what are thc crystals like to chew?

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TB? last time i heard, TB was caused by the bacteria Mycobacterium tuberculosis not glass particles!

Yes that is correct. My original statement was that if these particles contain silica and they actually enter our lungs putting us at risk of Silicosis then according to the site I posted

"People with silicosis are at high risk for developing tuberculosis (TB). Silica is believed to interfere with the body's immune response to the bacteria that causes TB."

There is plenty of TB around in our city's. Our saving grace is that it is actually not at all easy to 'catch' generally. This I presume is because we generally have a good immune response. If silica does interefere with our immune response then it increases our risk of getting it elsewhere. I am not saying TB is in or a direct result of the weed contamination.

In my original post I was simply pointing out in reference to the guy saying his mate had caught and died from TB beleiving it may be related to the weed contamination - who was then rubished - that there could possibly be a link.

To determin if we are at risk of silicosis we would first need to somehow quantify our exposure to silica from contaminated weed. In trying to do so we may find its zero - maybe theres no silica at all or it cannot enter our lungs in the form its in. That would be great. We have dont really have the resources available to us to find out conclusivly though. We have a doctor quouted in a gurdian article, who then proceeded to loose credibility in my eyes at least. I need more then that before I discount these risks for myself.

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To determin if we are at risk of silicosis

Alternatively and most likely we find out that we are at risk when people start dieing from it and our government is ramming it down our throats that this is all part and parcel of the evils of dangerous drugs - they wont think for a moment that prohibition may be more dangerous then the 'drugs'. What on earths the point ?

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There is plenty of TB around in our city's. Our saving grace is that it is actually not at all easy to 'catch' generally. This I presume is because we generally have a good immune response.
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Note:- Here in the UK all school children are immunised against TB at around the age of 12-13 and until recently TB was almost eradicated in the UK.

There is however a growing problem mainly with the influx of EU immigrants who have not been immunised who are suffering the disease which itself may be mutating.

It is a VERY nasty disease! Let's hope the other scourges such as Polio don't also reappear.

[quote Puffer][quote weedprohibitionisacrime][quote bad.analytical]
There is plenty of TB around in our city's. Our saving grace is that it is actually not at all easy to 'catch' generally. This I presume is because we generally have a good immune response.
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Note:- Here in the UK all school children are immunised against TB at around the age of 12-13 and until recently TB was almost eradicated in the UK.

There is however a growing problem mainly with the influx of EU immigrants who have not been immunised who are suffering the disease which itself may be mutating.

It is a VERY nasty disease! Let's hope the other scourges such as Polio don't also reappear.[/quote]

I had wondered if silica does interfere with our immune response to TB if this would also be the case had we been immunized. If I where to hazard a guess I would imagine that since the BCG basically provokes an immune response and 'teaches' it to kill TB - then we are still relying on our immune response and it would therefore be 'interfered' with just the same regardless of how this immune response was acquired. I don't know for sure though - would be interesting to find out.

I just really hope we who have smoked this contaminated weed have not had the type of exposure to silica that could cause this or silicosis. It would be nice to have more then hope. I still cant bring myself to throw what I have - though have not yet smoked anymore since I discovered that weired gritty stuff may be more then just sand. Mine also has a distinct pasty feel between the fingers when its crushed and rolled. That pasty feeling I have never in over 10 years or smoking seen(felt). Also it does hurt my chest ! - feels like smoking 20 cigarettes a day again. These things are what made me wonder that that grit was more then sand and end up here.



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heres the plan.... everyone invest in a few hundered pounds worth of some rugged growing cannabis seeds, scatter them in april - may time in as many secluded areas as u can think of, hopefully it will take and grow by itself

global warming rocks

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heres the plan.... everyone invest in a few hundered pounds worth of some rugged growing cannabis seeds, scatter them in april - may time in as many secluded areas as u can think of, hopefully it will take and grow by itself

Yeah and no one will nick it! Great idea, what's plan B?