****sand weed update*****

I was reading ukcultivator site and apparently these guys called soft secrets are researching what this sandy stuff is. Anyone ever heard of this Brix +? Anyone have a copy of the article in Soft Secrets they can post up?

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Derek, I will have a gooood read of this cannaprag site and be in touch.

Dave

GROW 4 VICTORY

Thats it i ve had enough of that sand shit no longer do i smoke weed. After smoking for ten years or so i ve been driven to stop by this mother fuckers polluting it. I must say i do miss a nice skunky spliff and with no where to grow my own i have no choice but to stop! All i can say is wankersssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

I had some success with my usual dealer. We had big chats about skunk containimation etc, and he is well aware of it. As he smokes the same bud he sell's he is obviously anxious to get decent product as well. Things are looking up. If you just explain to your dealers that you aren't going to buy shit, then maybe things will change. Afterall, if you, and everyone else stops buying weed of them, because of dubious quality, they aren't going to have a business anymore are they?

mate i keep seeing this gritty bolocks eveywhere, it pops back up every 3weeks or so.

Iv heard from some gypsies its mixed with a certain type of sand, which is very very fine and can work its way into the bud.

i heard this shit weed is a sprinkled with this in large amounts.

others say it coming frm dam like this. importers know the situation in uk at mo, and buy the cheaPEST SHIT and make it weigh more with this fukin cement powder shit.

what i dont get is, 6- 9 years ago droughts always kick in around this time of year, ok thats fair as alot of dutch was imported then.

But most of the weed now is grown here in UK.???? has evryone forgot to put some more clones in the grow room or something?????????

Or is cannabis consumption so great in UK, maybe more than Holland that supply cannot keep up with demand?????????

Well we keep fucking running out.

wo hoooo got hold of some pollen and it is very nice. At last a decent bit of smoke i ve cut right down due to this sandy shit but when somthing nice is around i just cant help myself. So maybe things r looking up. Just about to roll a fat one and chill out at last. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM POLLEN!

High Ya Tokers........ Great site ...Good to know there's uk wide info network dedicated to the "Darling Buds"

Living in Central Scotland... Never been so much bad shit around (even the TOTAL crap stuff is scarce) it's a killer.........but everyone thinks the next bit will be better, so rather than upset the "man" we smoke this shit...... Talkin' solid soapbar...Death Bar if you ask me.

Sad to hear weed is going the same way, with all the sand contamination comments that have been posted here.

As yer man says...refuse it & grow you're own...as Peter Tosh sings "Legalise It"

Solids are a NO NO for me from now on.......soon as i've smoked the last of the crappy 1/8th turd i paid £15 for.......Hrrrrmph!

Anyone know where the trippy temple ball and the cool afghani, fluffy morrocan, thai stick........ & the staple diet of paki black that used to waft thru the uk in the 70's & 80's disapeared to?

UK needs a successor to dear old Howard Marks.


"Part of me Spiritual Experience" I told the judge.

Regards to all
Hoots



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/2006 12:43PM by Hoots.

Here in norfolk/suffolk area (east anglia) there has been a lot of this contaminated weed. I had a toot (weed + little tobacco) the other day from what I thought were a hell of a lot of crystals for 3.5 ... everything pulled through BUT the lump of crystals. I emptied my downpipe to realise the crystals was a burnt lump of hard sand that crumbled in my hand - ever since my downpipe has been screwed over and all i can taste is this horrible tree-like substance.
I've been to leicester in the past few days and over there there is contaminated cannabiss as well - it seems that aside from the drought that many people are going through at the minute the only substitute is the unnatural crap!
I read in the papers recently that someone had called a local police station up asking where he could get some canabiss from as his area had been out for weeks ... the police reckoned this was a sign that their raids are going well ...

:(

The article from Soft Secrets regarding herb contamination is online now at [www.ukcia.org]

It makes scarey reading, although it doesn't mention the sand. I think we've got a big problem developing, and it's all because of prohibition.

Derek

Webteam UKCIA

i am also astounded at the lengths that these crooks will go 2 make a few extra quid. i am glad 2 say however that through the drought most of us have been experiencing ive had 1 good supply of nice quality soil grown bigbud and good quality pollen and other solids. thank god 4 my m8.oh yeah and his m8 and his.

back 2 the point i first saw this shite about 4 months ago and the first thing i said was thats fekin sand but then talked myself round 2 believing it was crystals. thankfully i have only had it twice and have hopefully not done too much damage to my body. so dont smoke this shit and defo dont cook with it.
why couldnt they have jus decriminalised fully like they should have and let honest law abiding people like myself grow our own with out the risk of imprisonment. but thats another thread.

ps. think im gona defo start growing (not really mr police officer)

That certainly does make scary reading Derek , I get the feeling it's going to make sense to grow your own from now on

Seems the UK is a dumping ground for crap these days.

I still can't believe that people in high places see the damage legal drugs such as booze and tobacco do and yet cannibis which does have effects but nothing as bad as booze is crimilised - meaning we have to smoke this shit !

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Hoots
High Ya Tokers........ Great site ...Good to know there's uk wide info network dedicated to the "Darling Buds"
Living in Central Scotland... Never been so much bad shit around (even the TOTAL crap stuff is scarce) it's a killer.........but everyone thinks the next bit will be better, so rather than upset the "man" we smoke this shit...... Talkin' solid soapbar...Death Bar if you ask me.

Sad to hear weed is going the same way, with all the sand contamination comments that have been posted here.

As yer man says...refuse it & grow you're own...as Peter Tosh sings "Legalise It"

Solids are a NO NO for me from now on.......soon as i've smoked the last of the crappy 1/8th turd i paid £15 for.......Hrrrrmph!

Anyone know where the trippy temple ball and the cool afghani, fluffy morrocan, thai stick........ & the staple diet of paki black that used to waft thru the uk in the 70's & 80's disapeared to?

UK needs a successor to dear old Howard Marks.


"Part of me Spiritual Experience" I told the judge.

Regards to all
Hoots

people 2 lazy 2 import now all our shit came from abroad then i do however get some good solid from time 2 time believe it or not

Hello Stoners

Took me ages to come across this forum but so glad i did just want to share my concerns about this whole "SANDY WEED" shit thats floating about and i am relived thats its not just confined to my area of the East Coast, West Anglia area of Kings Lynn.

Im very fussy about the stuff i smoke and always inspect the buds that i purchase and when i bough a half of this specific green it looked a bit too crystally and in certain areas of the bud little specs seemed to refect light, my first thought was that it was some amazing shit hot weed because it got me stoned but i could hear the gritty crunching sound when i ground it it up in a cheaper grinder. My 3 chamber space case didnt pick up the sound but did catch the fake sandy crystals in the pollen catcher area. Millions of thoughts went through my head, at first i thought it was crushed glass because it looked so shinny but as glass dosent burn and this stuff did i thought abouth crushed fibreglass but that would irritate and itch my skin when rubbed on to my hand which this didnt. I also licked some of the buds to get in on my tounge and found it to be very crunchy. Under a magnafiying glass it does appear to be a sandy substance. I have done other tests for example i have shook the buds till all the sand has fallen off and then put the bud into a cheap grinder and kept constantly grinding it to seperat the grit from the actual green. You have to do this about ten times before the green looks sand free. I kept the sandy granuals and put it into a pollen press and to be honest it stinks like pollen looks 90% like pollen burns normally and apart from the odd reflecttive spects and tiny grit like balls an uneducated smoker would belive it is POLLEN/THC Crystals but it definitly a mixture of actual pollen and sand. I did another test to see if i could find a decent way of seperating the sand from the green and the only proper way i found was to put buds in a glass of clear water give it a stir and watch all the gritty granuels of sand fall to the bottom of the glass while the bud stays afloat at the top of the glass. After bout 30mins the weed was completely sand free, I then put the wet bud under a lamp to dry.
I must admit the green did lose some of it size and potentcy but it did get me stoned and I didn’t have to worry about inhaling all that grit. What really Fucks me off is that its actually really good green without the grit shit, which is obviously added to increase the weight , most likely during the buds early flowering stages when its sill sticky.

If any one has another method of separating the grit from the green please post it,

If imports cannot sell poor quality weed and solid when it gets to this country because people dont want to buy shit they will bring in better quality and we will be happy, the end.

Its a consumer market same as everything else because you lot are clucking like turkeys and cant handle a dry spell your forcing the quality down and the price up just playing into the gangsters hands and building up there retirment fund, sealing our fate and the shape of things to come.

DON'T BUY POOR QUALITY DO US ALL A FAVOUR!

Lets dry the bigtime dealers out of money so they have to bring in better quality and lets do it now.

Come on people sort it out

hi to u allim new to this forum and i find the site facinating been having a good scout round the various threads this one has really caught my eye i live in the south wales valleys and as of yet i havnt heard of any of this sand skunk and i know i havnt smoked any most of the skunk here is grown on a small scale by people who are known to most of the local smokers and who grow for their own pleasure not for commercial gain by the sound of things we have been lucky so far down here but one thing for sure i will be passing this informaition on to my freinds thanks to all involved in this site

Just picked up 1/2oz of this Sandy Weed in Bristol, watch out wales! Are you guys using any precautions to limit potential damage? So far people have suggested using a good quality screen (I smoke through a pipe), a coffee filter, and my own suggestion, buy a Vaporiser (finally a good enough reason to buy one!). Im too paranoid now to smoke this shit!

Also, why hasn't this been brought up in the news?



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its widespread now mate and more worryingly its not sand take it from me. Its fibre-glass. Dealers are now ruining perfectly good crops of skunk by spraying it with fibre glass. the reason? pure greed. dealers can now turn 5 ounces of green into 8 ounces just by spraying it. I'd like to think it was sand but its not at least sand is natural. i don't know what kind of bad effects this shit has on you but i do know if your gonna smoke it you should only do it with a hefty filter on your joint. or smoke it through a bong that passes the smoke through water. i can imaghain the most danger comes from actually inhaling the fibre-glass particals as it does not really burn. a joint burns at around 700 degrees c, fibre glass doesn''t burn it starts to melt though at aroung 1700 degrees c. i'm desperately looking for a way to de-contaminate some otherwise top doller green i have so if anyone knows of a way to do this, and i really cant see there being one give us a shout. If you want to blame someone for this blame the powers that be for not separating the criminals from the smokers and de-criminalising it. oh yeah the less people that take this shit the better. if people keep buying contamionated green the scum bag money grabbing dealers who deserve to be subjected to many hours of exceptionally viscious torture before they die will keep doing it. fuck the law grow your own guys

I don't think it is fibreglass, its something called Brit+ which is a form of fine sand. Must way a hell of a lot if it turns 5 Ounces into 8! That means you would be getting half the weight for the equivelent of what you would normally get?!??!

When I had some I did'nt find the stuff got in my mouth, it just ruins a good piece of weed.

Cheech is defianlty right about one thing, You need to stop buying this shit but if you don't have the ability to grow your own, what can you do??

After experimenting with differnt sources from around my local area i am convinced that either knowledge of how to 'cut' bud well (no more spraying it with water and gettin stuff that smells like cheese...) has become much more wide spread. Or there is some cunt/cunts shifting the stuff in on a regional scale pulling the hazy wool over peoples eyes...

ive noticed the police seem to be catching on though, they seem to be having a hate campaign against nething what is green.

I share the sentiment of many others, grow your own. But fear the powers that be, and remeber that stoners like to talk.

I got a reply and here it is, the way the government see our dilema:


Thank you for your e-mail of 6 October expressing your views on the legalisation of cannabis and sentencing policy issues. Your e-mail has been passed to the Crime and Drug Legislation and Enforcement Unit and I have been asked to reply.

Can I first explain that the Government has no intention of legalising cannabis. In response to the Home Affairs Committee report on The Government’s Drugs Policy: Is It Working? in 2002, the Government stated that “We do not accept that legalisation and regulation is now, or will be in the future, an acceptable response to the presence of drugs” and that includes cannabis for the reasons set out below.

The Government considers that cannabis (in all its forms) is a controlled drug for good reasons. When recommending the reclassification of the drug from Class B to Class C under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs asked for it to be clearly understood that cannabis is unquestionably harmful. It has a number of acute and chronic health effects and can induce dependence with prolonged use.

Most cannabis is smoked and smoking, in any form, is dangerous. Even the occasional use of cannabis can pose significant dangers for people with mental health problems, such as schizophrenia, and particular efforts need to be made to encourage abstinence in such individuals. The Government believes that it clearly makes sense therefore for cannabis to remain a controlled drug whose unauthorised production (including cultivation), supply and possession are and will remain illegal.

It follows that, like all other illegal street drugs, cannabis is all the more harmful if it is sold with dangerous substances added.

This knowledge serves to reinforce that part of the Government's drugs strategy which deals with expanding the provision and improving the quality of drug education, information and advice. The Government’s message to all – and to young people in particular – is that all controlled drugs, including cannabis (even when it is not adulterated), are harmful and no one should take them. It is vital that our drugs laws should accurately reflect the relative harms of drugs if education messages to young people about the dangers of misusing drugs are to be credible, convincing and, ultimately, effective.

The Government is aware of the arguments for legalising cannabis in a regulated way and has concluded that the disadvantages would outweigh the benefits. To legalise the possession of cannabis for personal consumption would send the wrong message to the majority of young people who do not take drugs on a regular basis, if at all, with the potential risk of increased drug use and abuse.

The Government’s objective is to reduce the use of all illegal drugs – including cannabis – substantially, not to encourage use that would result from increased consumption due to more ready access to increased supply. While our drugs laws cannot be expected to eliminate drug use, there is no doubt that they do help to limit use and deter experimentation.

The Government will continue to make it clear that cannabis is illegal and can cause serious and sometimes considerable harm to those who use it as well as great distress to their families and friends. Its education and health campaigns will clearly transmit these messages, making clear the harms of the drug and specifically the risks to mental health. The Government's aim is to ensure that people – and young people in particular – are well aware of all
the risks.

In response to your points concerning sentencing policy, the misuse of drugs is made unlawful by the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971. Under this Act, possession of a Class A drug with intent to supply it to another carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment and a fine. In deciding whether or not a defendant had an intention to supply a drug to another person, a court must consider all the evidence available to it, drawing such inferences from it as appears proper under the circumstances. An involuntary keeper of drugs may be considered guilty of supply, for example. It is ultimately the judge’s decision whether a sentence of imprisonment can be passed, and the length of it, taking into account any aggravating or mitigating features of the case.

You also suggest that violence-related offences carry less severe penalties than drugs-related ones. The criminal law contains a wide range of powers to deal with violent behaviour. Where only one or two people are involved in causing unlawful violence, the offence is known as affray and carries a maximum penalty of three years’ imprisonment. Assault attracts a maximum penalty of six months’ imprisonment and/or a fine of £5,000. Assault occasioning actual bodily harm and malicious wounding carry maximum penalties of five years’ imprisonment. Wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm and manslaughter attract a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. Murder has a mandatory life sentence.

I hope this helps to explain the Government’s position, but I recognise that my reply is likely to disappoint you.

Yours sincerely,






Tawa Bishi




I would say; you refer to cannabis as controlled however the problem is that it is not.
They say that smoking is bad for health so they cannot legalise it however tabbacco is on sale in every news agent?
They say cannabis causes mental health and family problems, I say so does alcohol but this is allowed? The amount of blokes I have seen lose it and get into a drunken rage in my time is enough evidence for me to say that it can cause violence, just look in any city on any weekend.
Drinking is bad for health but this is a personal choice why not cannabis?

They tried to clear up my concern for violent criminals being given less of a sentance than your dealer of herb or cultivator but they failed. I said how can you give 3 years for rape and up to 14 for cultivation which do you think is worse. If you go out and assault somone causing malicious wounding you serve up to 5 years and if you grow some plants you serve up to 14 years lol complete joke, fucking school boys are running our country!

Holland has had coffe shops for 30 years and the results are clear if the gov opened their eyes and took their heads out of their bosses arses. Why does Tony have to be Bushes Bitch?

Summing up this is just the sort of wet, school boy bollocks that I expected from the Homeoffice and is not a proper reply. I think it would have helped if they had read my comment before answering it, tossers.

If I choose to smoke it is up to me how can some one tell me I cannot. If i smoke 20 cigs a day or drank alcohol every day and ate junk food I know that it is harmful to me but it still is a personal choice of what I do with my own person.

People in my family have died so that the people in this country might live in freedom and then you get some prick in a suit telling me how to spend my spare time based on incomplete/inappropriate research, Well Fuck You Lot!

The reasons behind legislation are purley economic the same with the reasons if we should go to war or not i.e is there any oil to take, is there any poppies to control i.e leave Mougarbi and Milosovic to it.

Transparent and useless thats Labour, they say one thing do another and answer to no one.